What are the top things I need to know about the Note 8?

The Galaxy Note 8 is here. It’s the biggest phone Samsung makes, and expectations for it are just as big to match. And rightfully so, as it has a hefty price tag if you’re interested in buying one for yourself. Before you make that decision, you’ll want to do your research, and that’s why we have one handy guide with all of the information you need to know before choosing to buy a Galaxy Note 8.

Read (and watch) our Note 8 review

To kick things off, you’ll want to get the top-level view and see the Note 8 in action with some context in our full video review. When you want more, you can read our complete Note 8 review as well!

More: Samsung Galaxy Note 8 review: An expression of dominance

So the Note 8 is big

“Galaxy Note” has always been synonymous with “big phone,” and that’s still very much true today. Taking on the Galaxy S8′s proportions of being tall and skinny, but applying them to a 6.3-inch display, the Note 8 is very tall indeed. At 162.5 mm, it’s notably taller than the LG V30 (151.7 mm), Note 5 (153.2 mm) and iPhone 8 Plus (158.4 mm) — all while also being wider and heavier as well.

The Note 8 is huge, there’s no way to get around it.

Even with very small bezels around the screen, that big footprint makes it rather tough to reach the top of the display or even reach across for a slide-in gesture from the edge. In many cases you’ll have to awkwardly shift your hand, or just wait until you have both hands available to get everything done. In a pinch, you can use the one-handed mode, which shrinks the screen down to the corner so you can actually use it without fear of dropping the phone.

Some people love the big screen — that is, after all, often why they bough a Note in the first place. But if you aren’t committed to it, and think you may be able to figure it out in the future, consider getting a smaller phone.

Two cameras are better than one

Part of what you get for that added size is two rear cameras rather than one. Samsung is using the most popular formula of two sensors with the same resolution behind lenses of different focal lengths — one “standard” field of view, and another that’s roughly twice the length with a narrower field of view. They aren’t the same sensor, though, and the longer lens has a narrower aperture of f/2.4 to the main camera’s f/1.7 — that means it lets in less light.

Two cameras … and not quite twice the capabilities.

In practice, the second camera offers you an extra shooting option and some more utility. As you zoom in, whether you’re shooting photos or video, the software will automatically switch to the longer lens so you don’t lose resolution. The result? Better photos and video with less noise. You can also just tap the “2X” button to switch to the long lens, giving you a narrower field of view and an altogether different look from a “normal” smartphone shot. It works particularly well for macros, provided you have enough light.

Samsung has also developed a “Live Focus” mode that lets you take photos with both cameras at once, and use that extra data to artificially blur the background … or at least, what the camera thinks is the background. It doesn’t always get that calculation right, and when it misses the mark it looks kind of funny. Thankfully the camera also saves the standard photo from the main camera every time you take a Live Focus shot — an escape hatch, of sorts. Live Focus is worth trying out, and it’s capable of excellent results sometimes provided the conditions are all right, but this feature alone isn’t enough to differentiate this camera from the Galaxy S8+’s single sensor and lens.

It’s very similar to the Galaxy S8+

Chances are you’ve gathered the fact that the Galaxy Note 8 is extremely similar to the Galaxy S8+ released earlier this year. That’s definitely true. The Note 8 is just a couple millimeters larger in its overall external dimensions, and its 6.3-inch display is barely larger than the 6.2-inch of the GS8+ — though the Note 8′s display does get a bit brighter. Internally, the only change is the Note 8′s extra RAM, now up to 6GB from 4GB, and its smaller battery at 3300mAh to the GS8+’s 3500mAh. Of course there are two rear cameras on the Note 8 — but we already covered that.

Everything else is identical. The materials and build quality, while excellent, are unchanged. The Galaxy Note 8 has a bit sharper corners that give it a more blocky look, but that’s pretty minor. The charging technology, ports, speaker and call quality are all the same. So if you have a Galaxy S8+, you shouldn’t be considering an upgrade to the Galaxy Note 8. But if you’re on a different phone and you want a top-end Galaxy, these phones should be head-to-head in your consideration — just know that you get about 90% the same phone in either case.

More: Galaxy Note 8 vs. Galaxy S8: Which should you buy?

What’s new with the S Pen

Several generations in, the existence of the S Pen nestled inside the phone is what gives the Galaxy Note its name. This is, of course, the best and most capable S Pen yet — but it isn’t much different from what we saw debut on the Note 7, nor is it dramatically different from the Note 5′s.

The S Pen is fantastic, if that’s the sort of tool you need.

The new S Pen has higher sensitivity of 4096 levels, which is fantastic when paired up with the very fine 0.7 mm stylus tip, and together you continue to have a very accurate instrument for writing and drawing. The S Pen-focused software is basically the same as far as the core features of Samsung Notes, Screen write, Smart select and Translate go. You get a new “Live message” feature that lets you write out and send animated gifs, and the “Screen off memo” feature has been improved, but that’s about it.

The S Pen is still a super effective tool for getting all of the fine control work done on your Note 8, and it brings those extra utilities that you can’t just get on any other phone (even a Galaxy S8+) — but it won’t be a game-changer for everyone. If the idea of the S Pen doesn’t immediately speak to you when you test it out before buying, that’s the best indication yet that you should consider the Galaxy S8+.

How about battery life?

For all of that massive size, the Note 8′s battery capacity is rather conservative at 3300mAh. As noted that’s actually smaller than the Galaxy S8+ and Note 7 (ahem), and the same size as smaller phones like the LG G6 and OnePlus 5. With a super-efficient processor and display, the Note 8′s battery life is good; but it isn’t necessarily great.

In our testing as part of our review, we found the Note 8 could get you through a full day, even with pretty heavy use, but it wouldn’t have anything left in the tank in doing so. Getting upwards of 16 hours of use out of the phone with just a 3300mAh battery is quite good, and probably enough for most people given their typical usage. But not getting exceptional battery life out of a Note, something the line’s long been known for, can be a bit disappointing to those who are upgrading from a prior model.

Yup, it’s expensive

The Note 8 is very clearly the top-end device in Samsung’s flagship lineup, and it has all of the best technology the company has to offer. It also has the highest price, retailing around $950, give or take a few depending on the market and carrier. While you can find some good deals out there, if you just walk into a store today and want to buy one it’s going to be very costly.

So is the phone worth the money? Well, that’s a personal decision — everyone has a different threshold for what they are willing to pay for a phone. If you want the absolute biggest and best Samsung has to offer, you’re going to have to pay up. But if the idea of a $900+ smartphone makes your eyes water, know that you can save $100-200 by getting a Galaxy S8+ or the small-but-capable Galaxy S8 and still get the core experience that makes the Galaxy Note 8 great.

More: Where to buy the Galaxy Note 8

There are four colors to choose from — sort of

The Galaxy Note 8 is offered in four different gorgeous colors: midnight black, orchid grey, maple gold and deep sea blue. But unfortunately you won’t have your choice of all four in all areas around the world. The U.S., for example, only has the black and grey models available — and even further, the unlocked version for the U.S. is only available in black. Head up to Canada and you get black and blue … but not the other two.

Internationally you’ll have a better shot at choosing between more colors, but you unfortunately can’t always count on having all four. Be sure to read our take on the colors and see which one is right for you … then filter things down by country and go from there.

More: Which color Galaxy Note 8 should I buy?

Any more questions?

If you have any other questions you need answered, we hope you drop a comment down below or hop into our Galaxy Note 8 forums!

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Bose is synonymous with quality and expense, and with those come great features.

Bose’s QuietComfort 35 headphones are some of the most highly-recommended active noise-canceling headphones on the market. Modern Dad calls them the best headphones a traveler could ask for, and its successor, the Bose QuietComfort 35 II, are apparently packing a new feature that’ll be quite handy to Android users: Google Assistant.

Look what I found early …. Bose QC 35 II pic.twitter.com/vq2zXDDb2A

— Jeremy Judkins (@jeremyjudkins) September 16, 2017

Jeremy Judkins has apparently stumbled across a retail box for the new model, and right there on the back of the box sits a nifty new Google Assistant built-in logo. Having Google Assistant on-board could be a great help, even if its media commands turn out to not be quite as robust as ones on the Google Home, and hopefully with Bose’s nose eliminating magic for its mic array you’ll be able to get commands heard clearly while going about our noisy, busy lives. Battery life also hopefully will be improved on this model, but the only big question I have left here is will the Bose QC35 II finally make the jump to USB-C for charging?

The headphones are expected to be a part of Google’s October 4 event, during which the company will announce the Pixel 2 series. Like last year, where Google also unveiled the Home and Wifi, we’re expecting to hear about a new initiative where Google will partner with audio accessory manufacturers like Bose to include Assistant in these products.

The headphones were initially unveiled by 9to5Google last week.

Google Pixel 2 + Pixel XL 2: Everything you need to know!

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Amazon’s currently has a pretty great discount on the extremely popular Anker SoundCore Bluetooth speaker. With this deal, the black version speaker drops down to $25.49 (the other colors are $32.99), from a usual street price around $36. Anker is well known for coupon code deals, which are hard to track over time, so it’s possible this speaker has gone lower than this in the past. For direct price drops, though, this price only matches a previous drop back in 2016 on Black Friday.

The SoundCore has a 24-hour battery life, which means you can take it on any outdoor excursion without worrying about it fading for quite some time. It has a built-in mic so you can use Bluetooth for hands-free phone calls. It also comes with an 18-month warranty from Anker. The waterproof successor to this speaker, the SoundCore 2 is also on sale right now, and you can pick one up for just $40.

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Excitement can only last so long before we start expecting the product to match.

I published my initial Essential Phone review on August 18. 11 days later, after a few more software updates and extra time with it, I solidified the review with my final thoughts on the phone. But somehow, today, as we hit one month since Essential deemed its phones available and ready to review, the phone still doesn’t seem … complete. Though the Essential Phone is technically available, on sale, and in some consumers’ hands, it doesn’t feel like it’s really out there yet.

Nobody outside of Essential knows how many phones have been ordered, or how that number differs from how many have been made. But we know it isn’t millions — or, probably, over fifty thousand if we’re being realistic about it. Add to that the extremely narrow scope of its retail launch and the initial shipping delays, and it’s not surprising that the Essential Phone feels like it’s still stuck in first gear.

But as someone who’s been using the Essential Phone for over a month, and dealing with its clearly unfinished software, that’s probably for the best. This past week my Essential Phone received both an 888MB full OS update and a subsequent 71MB bug fix update. Two in a line of roughly 10 OTAs I’ve received in the past month — necessary, badly needed updates. Most focused on the camera, which is still below the standard of a $700 phone, but also squashing important bugs and improving overall stability. Using the Essential Phone today is far and away a better experience than a month ago; and it still doesn’t feel like a completed product that should actually be on sale, to say nothing of being on sale at this price.

At some point we expect a proper, finished product — how long do we wait?

For all of the talk historically about Google’s Nexus phones (and to a lesser extent, Pixels) being for “beta testers,” the Essential Phone feels like it’s truly in beta — and when I got my hands on it, it was in alpha. The question is, at this point, how much longer do we wait for Essential to figure this out? How much longer do we keep looking at the promise and potential of this company and just measure it on what it’s actually offering: a phone that looks and feels beautiful, but offers what would be considered a subpar software experience in a $400 phone two years ago.

On one hand, companies love having as long a time in the spotlight as possible. “There’s no such thing as bad news coverage” and such. And indeed, Essential has been able to ride months of coverage and interest for what is a single phone with a few redeeming qualities but also a general consensus that it just isn’t good enough for the price and posturing. But at some point, we need the Essential Phone to actually be finished, and offering a complete experience without the beta-feeling software and unfulfilled promises. That’s how you actually sell a meaningful number of phones and start to justify your company’s $1 billion valuation.

And, with that, let’s hit a few more quick points from the week that was:

  • Alex absolutely killed it on his initial review of the LG V30. Looks like a great phone, and even if it isn’t necessarily a direct competitor to the Galaxy Note 8 it looks like one of the top devices of 2017.
  • It will, of course, have competition from the Google Pixel XL 2 set to be unveiled on October 4. Can’t wait!
  • Now well removed from IFA, I’m excited to spend more than a couple hours with the Moto X4 — it could be a fantastic phone for the sub-flagship segment.
  • Finally got around to writing about the Peak Design Everyday Sling I’ve been using for a couple months. Love this bag for “everyday carry” use.
  • I also have an Everyday Backpack … but due to its larger size I haven’t used that as often — though it’s been great for weekend trips … and saving my shoulder(s) on my trip to Berlin last month.

Have a great weekend, everyone!


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You can control your Gear VR vocally by using these commands!

Gear VR lets you explore great new worlds and games that can bring you across the universe. While there are certain things that will require a controller, you can control several simple commands using only your voice. There aren’t many voice commands, but the ones that are available make a big difference!

We’ve got every voice command available from within Gear VR for you here!

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Because you need to know what’s up and what to do about it.

We got to see something cool and terrible (yes, it’s possible to be both at the same time) earlier this week when Armis Security published the details of a new Bluetooth exploit. Called “Blueborne,” the exploit allows a person with the right tools and who is within Bluetooth range of your smart thing — laptop, phone, car, or anything else that runs Android (as well as most every other operating systems, including iOS and Windows) — to gain control over the device without any action from the user.

That’s because the exploit cleverly attacks portions of the software needed to establish a connection to hijack the Bluetooth stack itself, which is pretty much done in a universal way because of how complicated Bluetooth is and how the stack itself handles so many things the OS could be doing instead.

Interested yet? If not, you should be.

Before we go any further, here is the good(ish) news: Apple, Google, and Microsoft have all patched the exploit. On the Android side, we saw the fix in this month’s security patch released the same day the vulnerability was made public. This surely isn’t a coincidence and kudos to Armis for working with the companies who write the software we all use every day to get this fixed. Of course, almost every Android-powered device doesn’t yet have this patch and won’t for a while.

I’ll resist the temptation to make this all about Android’s update woes and the million-and-one different reasons that it happens. I’ll just say that if you value being protected against most vulnerabilities like this you currently have three options: an Android-powered device from BlackBerry, an Android-powered device direct from Google, or an iPhone. You decide what to do here.

Instead let’s talk about what Blueborne is and how it does it, as well as what you can do about it.

What is Blueborne?

It’s a series of simple attacks on various parts of the Bluetooth stack running on almost every smart device in the world. Including 2 billion Android phones. It’s not a MiTM (Man in The Middle) attack, where someone intercepts Bluetooth traffic between you and a thing you’re connected to. Instead, it’s posed as a device that wants to discover and connect over Bluetooth but the exploit happens before the connection attempt gets to a stage where a user needs to act.

For people into this sort of thing, the short version of how the exploit works on Android is that the attacker sends out a discovery query, then manipulates both the timestamp and size of a second discovery query for a separate service to the same machine. This causes a buffer underflow and bypasses the standard Bluetooth Security Management Protocols to hit the failsafe “just works” connection. While it sounds crazy that this works, it’s better than the default BlueZ stack version of the exploit which is a straight-up buffer overflow that bypasses every connection check. I’m not familiar enough with Windows or iOS to parse the exploit code for those operating systems, but if you are hit the link in the opening paragraph and check it out. Then hit the comments and help us all understand better.

If you’re not into looking through code (it’s a special sort of illness, I do admit) the short short version is that a person with a computer that has a Bluetooth connection can type a few lines in a terminal and connect to your phone. How easy it is for him or her to connect is ridiculous (we’ll talk about why that is later) and anyone with even just a passing knowledge of this sort of thing can do it. That’s why it was important that Armis hold the release until Apple, Google, and Microsoft were able to act.

The scary part is what happens after the connection is made. There is no secret magic app that roots your phone and hacks all your data. It’s too easy to prevent any process from getting that level of control, and permissions prevent it from happening unless a process does have that level of access. Instead, an attacker can act as the logged in user. That’s you.

With 8 billion devices that need to connect, Bluetooth is a big target for people who want to steal data.

In the example video above we see the attacker establishing a Bluetooth mouse connection to a sleeping Pixel, then doing the same things you could do if you were holding it in your hands. Apps can be started, pictures, video, and audio can be recorded, and your files can be downloaded directly to the attacker’s computer. there is nothing on your phone to say “Stop, this is not cool” because it is cool — it’s acting as you. And none of your data is safe. If the attacker is unable to access a sandboxed directory, he or she can simply open the associated app and pull images of what’s on the screen while it is running.

The frustrating part of all this is why it works. I’m not talking about how the stack is exploited and someone crashes their way in, I mean why in the broader sense. Why something this preventable was able to slip past the experts who oversee security and are really good at writing this sort of thing out of the operating system. And the answer is that it happened because Bluetooth is a giant, complicated mess.

It’s not the Bluetooth SIG’s (Special Interest Group) fault, even if it is their responsibility to ultimately address this. Bluetooth started out in 1998 as a simple short-range wireless connection. It’s now on more than 8 billion devices worldwide and has grown and grown in features and complexity. And it has to be backward compatible, so portions of it have to be left as-is when it comes to things like advanced connection security standards. If an encrypted paired-key connection can’t be established, it has to be able to try something less secure and keep trying until it connects, runs out of ways to try, or the security management features tell it to stop. Exploit the SMP layer and you’re in. And as new features get added to newer versions, it only gets worse.

There are exploits in proprietary software, too. We just don’t know about them until it’s too late.

The people writing an operating system and the security team whose job it is to break it will all take their share of the responsibility here, too. The problem here is that they’re dealing with impossibly complex code in the Bluetooth stack and while they are busy trying to patch it against one thing other things could also be exploited. Google did change a good bit of the “default” Bluetooth implementation for Linux, as did Apple and Microsoft. The things you use are well-protected against things like a man in the middle attack or a way to get admin permission over Bluetooth. That’s because those have traditionally been the way Bluetooth was exploited, and there is always plenty of work to do prevent it from happening.

Finally, this is a great example of why open-source code is great. The researchers at Armis were able to find this exploit, see exactly how it works and determine exactly how to patch it because they have access to the code itself. While Apple and Microsoft don’t use a fully open source Bluetooth stack, they knew exactly where to look to patch their version. If every company involved used closed proprietary code this exploit would still exist, but we wouldn’t know about it until it was too late and other folks knew about it, too.

What should you do about it?

Every person reading this probably has one or more Bluetooth devices. Your watch, your phone, your laptop, your TV, and the list could go on and on; Bluetooth is everywhere and on almost everything. That means you’re likely to have Bluetooth enabled on your phone, and that’s all it takes to be vulnerable to this if your phone is still unpatched.

The saving grace here is that Bluetooth is a short-range connection standard. Bluetooth 5 is working on extending the range, but you’re pretty much confined to about 30 feet before the signal gets bad. That means you’re really only at risk when you’re within 30 feet of the person trying to get into your phone.

Bluetooth’s short range means an attacker has to be near you to use the Blueborne exploit.

And the way this exploit works is scary, but it also means you’re probably going to notice it. If your phone is sleeping and locked, an attacker can still connect. But as soon as they attempt to access your stuff or get tricky and try to take control, the screen would light up and they would need to unlock the phone. For now, at least. Don’t think for a minute that people aren’t working on a way around this because they are. And they will find it.

I’m not going to suggest you stop using your smartwatch or your favorite Bluetooth headset and shut down Bluetooth permanently. But there are a few things we can do to make it harder for someone to get in through Bluetooth while we’re waiting for a patch. And again — if your phone has the September 2017 security patch, you’re protected.

  • Shut Bluetooth off when you’re not using it. You’re probably safe at home or at work, but if you get into the habit of turning Bluetooth off when you don’t need it you won’t forget the next time you go to Starbucks. There is no way for an attacker to turn Bluetooth on. At least not yet.
  • Make sure you have a secure lock screen. Dead stop. If you don’t already have a password, PIN, pattern, fingerprints or anything else set up so your phone is locked until you unlock it yourself, go do it now.
  • Turn off trusted devices while you’re at it. Tapping in a 4-digit PIN or scanning your eyeballs is way more convenient than getting new credit cards and talking to your bank, even once. Trust me, I’ve been there. (Thank’s, Target. Idiots, I swear.)
  • Don’t leave your phone unattended. Put it in your pocket or purse and take it with you even if you’re only stepping away for a minute or two.
  • If you see the screen turn on, look and see why. This is the biggest “flaw” in the exploit; it will turn your screen on if someone tries to do anything after they are connected.
  • Ask the company you gave money to when you bought your phone when you should expect an update to fix this. Asking nicely lets it know that you care about it, and when enough people show they care a company will decide to care. The patch is available to every phone running Android 4.4 and higher.

There probably isn’t an army of people armed with laptops and Mountain Dew patrolling the streets, ready to hack “all the phones” through Bluetooth. But there could be that one guy, and he could be at McDonald’s or the library or anywhere else. In cases like this, it’s always better to be safe because the things we can do are pretty easy.

Your stuff is worth it.

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Typically when you hear the word endoscopic camera it’s being said by a doctor for the purpose of looking inside a patient. But these bendable snake cameras can be used for many everyday things beyond medical applications.

The versatility of an endoscopic camera can allow you to investigate what’s clogging a drain, peer inside the tight spaces of your car, or give you an inside look at any tough to reach areas of your home. The camera head is adjustable and waterproof, making it perfect for inspecting underwater areas, gaps or holes.

Best of all, you can get your very own waterproof endoscopic camera that records in crisp 1080p for just $33.99 via Android Central Digital Offers! This camera can snake its way into the tight and dark spaces our fingers or eyes can’t and send a feed right back to any device you own via Wi-Fi.

Typically, endoscopic cameras like this are sold for $99.99, but you can get yours and save 60%! What a deal!

So what are you waiting for? You never know when you may need a versatile endoscopic camera to get you out of a jam. But act fast — this deal won’t be around forever!

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Looking to pick up a PlayStation 4 for yourself or as a gift but don’t want to pay full price for it? Here are some of the best bundles available right now!

Consoles are always going on sale, and there are always different deals that include games, controllers, and other accessories, but hunting them down isn’t always the easiest thing. Whether you are looking for an original PlayStation 4, the refined PlayStation Slim, or the newest PlayStation Pro, we’ve got you covered on the best deals available.

If you aren’t quite sure which console to be looking for deals on, be sure to check out our amazing comparison which breaks it all down for you.

PlayStation 4

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Your favorite deals?

Have you found a great deal that isn’t listed here? If so, be sure to drop a link in the comments along with a line about what makes it such an awesome deal!

Update: Updated September 2017 with current deals. Previous deals have been removed and new deals added.

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Picking up an unlocked Note 8 in Europe today? Here’s what that ominous ‘European SIM card only’ sticker means.

If you’re picking up a shiny new, unlocked Samsung Galaxy Note 8 in Europe today, you’ll notice a sticker sealing the box. We’ve been here before with countless other Samsung flagships, and once again, the Note 8, as sold unlocked in Europe, is region-locked out of the box.

But it’s only a temporary situation — and it’s not as huge a deal as you might think.

The sticker on the Euro Galaxy Note 8 box spells out exactly which countries’ SIM cards can be used to activate the phone — essentially any EU and EEA countries, and a handful of other territories: Switzerland, Macedonia, Monaco, Montenegro, San Marino, Serbia and Vatican City.

As we’ve seen with earlier models, the Note 8′s region lock is temporary, and most will disable it through normal use of the phone.

To activate your unlocked Galaxy Note 8 for use with SIMs outside these countries, you’ll need to accumulate five minutes worth of phone calls on the phone with a “European” SIM — any SIM from the countries above. It doesn’t have to be a single phone call, just five minutes total. And once you’ve “activated” the phone, it stays that way even after a factory reset.

The sticker on the dual-SIM Note 8 doesn’t specify which SIM slot the calls need to be made on, sugesting the five minute total apples across both slots for dual-SIM folks. (By the same token, the SIM lock should also apply to both slots.)

So in the grand scheme of things, it’s not a massive inconvenience for regular Note 8 buyers, who’ll almost certainly hit the five minute mark before they’re inclined to travel anywhere outside Europe. The real intention here is to scupper gray importers looking to sell European Note 8s further afield. Samsung, like any large multinational electronics manufacturer, wants phones to be sold where they’re covered by warranties, and where it can easily offer localized customer support.

Sure, individual importers can always open and activate region-locked Note 8s, but it’s an additional barrier to entry which prevents mass distribution of Samsung phones outside of their intended area.

And for anyone picking up a Note 8 and then immediately hopping on a plane, just be sure to hit that five-minute mark before you go.

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This week, Daniel Bader, Alex Dobie, and Jerry Hildenbrand dissect the technology in Apple’s new iPhone X for a deep dive into wireless charging, facial recognition, and the impact they have the entire smartphone industry. Additionally, LG’s V30 continues to generate buzz in the market while the Galaxy Note 8 is now shipping, and the Pixel 2 is officially set for an October 4th announcement. The crew also talk about Andy Rubin, Vic Gundotra, computational photography, and more!

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